To translate 'Program Files' or not to translate?

[Jerome Leclanche]

We could translate the path and setup an English symlink automatically if
possible?

J. Leclanche


On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Francois Gouget <fgouget at free.fr> wrote:

>
> That is the question!
>
>
> We have a bunch of shell paths to translate in shell32.rc. However,
> based on my French Windows VMs and computers I believe a number of them
> should not be translated:
>
>  * As far as I can tell 'Program Files' is never translated.
>  * Same thing for 'SendTo' and 'Recent'.
>  * 'Application Data' appears to be translated in NT4 but not on Windows
>   2000 and greater.
>
> Generally speaking translating a path causes all sorts of trouble
> with broken applications. For instance one regularly ends up with a
> 'Common Files' folder as well as the French 'Fichiers Communs' one, even
> on a clean Windows install!
>
> Looking at Windows 2000 and greater it seems that Microsoft first
> decided to only translate the folders most visible to the user. That
> would explain why 'Application Data', 'Local Settings' and their ilk are
> not translated.
>
> But the very latest fashion (e.g. Windows 7), appears to be to never
> translate the actual on-disk folder name and use 'desktop.ini' files to
> get a localized name in the GUI. So for instance on Windows 7 the
> 'Program Files' folder is called that way on disk but it appears as
> 'Programmes' in Windows Explorer because of the desktop.ini file (as an
> anecdote 'Program Files (x86)' has no 'desktop.ini' file and thus is not
> translated in Explorer. What a mess!).
>
>
> So what do we want to do?
>
> The patch below marks the paths that are not meant to be translated as
> such to reduce the translators burden and avoid mistakes. Some paths mix
> parts that need to be translated with other that shouldn't. Given the
> CSIDL_Data structure I'm not sure that can be avoided but I'll be happy
> with any patch that avoids that. In the meantime I use the message
> context to give instructions to the translator.
>
> Does this make sense? Any better solution?
>
>
> diff --git a/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc b/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc
> index 92d9d72..3aaa0f2 100644
> --- a/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc
> +++ b/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc
> @@ -200,31 +200,31 @@ the folder?"
>        IDS_PERSONAL                "My Documents"
>        IDS_FAVORITES               "Favorites"
>        IDS_STARTUP                 "Start Menu\\Programs\\StartUp"
> -       IDS_RECENT                  "Recent"
> -       IDS_SENDTO                  "SendTo"
> +       IDS_RECENT                  "#msgctxt#do not translate#Recent"
> +       IDS_SENDTO                  "#msgctxt#do not translate#SendTo"
>        IDS_STARTMENU               "Start Menu"
>        IDS_MYMUSIC                 "My Music"
>        IDS_MYVIDEO                 "My Videos"
>        IDS_DESKTOPDIRECTORY        "#msgctxt#directory#Desktop"
>        IDS_NETHOOD                 "NetHood"
>        IDS_TEMPLATES               "Templates"
> -       IDS_APPDATA                 "Application Data"
> +       IDS_APPDATA                 "#msgctxt#do not translate#Application
> Data"
>        IDS_PRINTHOOD               "PrintHood"
> -       IDS_LOCAL_APPDATA           "Local Settings\\Application Data"
> -       IDS_INTERNET_CACHE          "Local Settings\\Temporary Internet
> Files"
> -       IDS_COOKIES                 "Cookies"
> -       IDS_HISTORY                 "Local Settings\\History"
> -       IDS_PROGRAM_FILES           "Program Files"
> -       IDS_PROGRAM_FILESX86        "Program Files (x86)"
> +       IDS_LOCAL_APPDATA           "#msgctxt#do not translate#Local
> Settings\\Application Data"
> +       IDS_INTERNET_CACHE          "#msgctxt#do not translate#Local
> Settings\\Temporary Internet Files"
> +       IDS_COOKIES                 "#msgctxt#do not translate#Cookies"
> +       IDS_HISTORY                 "#msgctxt#do not translate 'Local
> Settings'#Local Settings\\History"
> +       IDS_PROGRAM_FILES           "#msgctxt#do not translate#Program
> Files"
> +       IDS_PROGRAM_FILESX86        "#msgctxt#do not translate#Program
> Files (x86)"
>        IDS_MYPICTURES              "My Pictures"
> -       IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMON    "Program Files\\Common Files"
> -       IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMONX86 "Program Files (x86)\\Common Files"
> +       IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMON    "#msgctxt#do not translate 'Program
> Files'#Program Files\\Common Files"
> +       IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMONX86 "#msgctxt#do not translate 'Program
> Files (x86)'#Program Files (x86)\\Common Files"
>        IDS_COMMON_DOCUMENTS        "Documents"
>        IDS_ADMINTOOLS              "Start Menu\\Programs\\Administrative
> Tools"
>        IDS_COMMON_MUSIC            "Music"
>        IDS_COMMON_PICTURES         "Pictures"
>        IDS_COMMON_VIDEO            "Videos"
> -       IDS_CDBURN_AREA             "Local Settings\\Application
> Data\\Microsoft\\CD Burning"
> +       IDS_CDBURN_AREA             "#msgctxt#do not translate#Local
> Settings\\Application Data\\Microsoft\\CD Burning"
>        IDS_CONTACTS                "Contacts"
>        IDS_LINKS                   "Links"
>        IDS_PHOTO_ALBUMS            "Pictures\\Slide Shows"
> --
> 1.7.7.3
>
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