21 Sep
2009
21 Sep
'09
3:41 p.m.
Hi guys,
As you all know WineConf 2009 will take place at the campus of the
University of Twente in the Netherlands. This is the university at
which I have studied and still live. Julius Schwartzenberg (a computer
science student) and I have talked to various students and employees
whether they would be interested in WineConf. We have the impression
that there is quite some interest from them in WineConf (it is hard to
say how much people are interested but I would guess a few dozen).
WineConf itself is open to anyone but except for AJ his keynote, I
don't think it is that interesting for outsiders. What I'm suggesting
is that we hold a 'WinePreConf' on the Friday before WineConf at lets
say 4pm or so at which we will give one or two presentations (lets say
half an hour each) about Wine. It would be meant for students and
others with a technical background and it would explain things like
how Wine works, how it is developed, what it is used for ..... and
other interesting you could think about. After the presentations there
would be time for some beer. Attendees can ask questions and perhaps
can be lured to hack on Wine as well ;)
Personally I think such an event would be good to give others an
overview of Wine and to attract more developers. I don't expect all
Wine developers to be there but I expect that a big part of us is
already available by then (at least the US guys, since US planes
arrive in the morning). I think it would even be possible to hold such
an event in a lecture room which has video equipment and even
streaming support, so we could have some Youtube movies in good
quality ;)
What do you guys think about it? I really think there is an interest
in this and I think the university might be willing to help as well.
Regards,
Roderick Colenbrander
21 Sep
21 Sep
3:50 p.m.
What do you guys think about it? I really think there
is an interest
in this and I think the university might be willing to help as well.
I think it's a nifty idea. The key catch would be getting a space
for the meeting; if the University can help with that, I think it
would work great.
Of course, you locals would need to drive the effort, as
many of us will be inbound during that time. I'd be cheerful
to sit in the back and heckle, presuming my flight isn't delayed
and I make it in time.
Also, we should note that anyone wishing to attend Wineconf
but not stay at the hotel should still let us know so we can
plan to have food for you.
Cheers,
Jeremy
9:50 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jeremy White <jwhite(a)winehq.org> wrote:
Space is not really an issue.
What do you
guys think about it? I really think there is an interest
in this and I think the university might be willing to help as well.
I think it's a nifty idea. The key catch would be getting a space
for the meeting; if the University can help with that, I think it
would work great. Of course, you locals would need to drive the effort,
as
many of us will be inbound during that time. I'd be cheerful
to sit in the back and heckle, presuming my flight isn't delayed
and I make it in time.
I would organize it together with Julius and perhaps some others. The
main thing we need from 'Wine' are 2 people who can give a
presentation and what it should be about. I'll try to ask some people
around here for input.
Also, we should note that anyone wishing to attend
Wineconf
but not stay at the hotel should still let us know so we can
plan to have food for you.
At least I will be there (and can't say for others). I also talked a
bit with Julius and Hans and likely we will eat somewhere in the
center of Enschede at least on Saturday. The restaurants on the campus
(or close to here) can be good as well but in the center you also have
some pubs and it has a nicer atmosphere.
Finally if we would need some funds for this (I don't think it is
needed but in the worst case we might need at max 200 euro or so
perhaps for drinks or other things), would the Wine Fund be able to
assist?
Roderick
10 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Jeremy White <jwhite(a)codeweavers.com> wrote:
Me, too.
Finally if we
would need some funds for this (I don't think it is
needed but in the worst case we might need at max 200 euro or so
perhaps for drinks or other things), would the Wine Fund be able to
assist?
Certainly seems reasonable to me. 
2 Oct
2 Oct
2:28 p.m.
On 09/21/2009 11:50 PM, Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jeremy
White<jwhite(a)winehq.org> wrote:
Space is not really an issue.
Hi Roderick,
Is this still going to happen? If so, I'd probably head over to Enschede
a bit earlier than planned.
--
Cheers,
Paul.
What do
you guys think about it? I really think there is an interest
in this and I think the university might be willing to help as well.
I think it's a nifty idea. The key catch would be getting a space
for the meeting; if the University can help with that, I think it
would work great. Of course, you locals would need to drive the
effort, as
many of us will be inbound during that time. I'd be cheerful
to sit in the back and heckle, presuming my flight isn't delayed
and I make it in time.
I would organize it together with Julius and perhaps some others. The
main thing we need from 'Wine' are 2 people who can give a
presentation and what it should be about. I'll try to ask some people
around here for input.
Also, we should note that anyone wishing to
attend Wineconf
but not stay at the hotel should still let us know so we can
plan to have food for you.
At least I will be there (and can't say for others). I also talked a
bit with Julius and Hans and likely we will eat somewhere in the
center of Enschede at least on Saturday. The restaurants on the campus
(or close to here) can be good as well but in the center you also have
some pubs and it has a nicer atmosphere.
Finally if we would need some funds for this (I don't think it is
needed but in the worst case we might need at max 200 euro or so
perhaps for drinks or other things), would the Wine Fund be able to
assist?
Roderick
5:42 p.m.
Hi Paul,
It took some time to put things into motion. Over the past couple of
days Julius and I spoke to a lot of people from the university and
most were quite interested. Early next week we hope to have a meeting
with the study association from computer science, to discuss our plans
(we have made some). Depending on the results of that meeting we will
decide whether WinePreConf takes place or not. I hope to bring some
good news soon :)
Roderick
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Paul Vriens <paul.vriens.wine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 09/21/2009 11:50 PM, Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jeremy White<jwhite(a)winehq.org> wrote:
Space is not really an issue.
Hi Roderick,
Is this still going to happen? If so, I'd probably head over to Enschede a
bit earlier than planned.
--
Cheers,
Paul.
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What do you guys think about it? I really think there is an interest
in this and I think the university might be willing to help as well.
I think it's a nifty idea. The key catch would be getting a space
for the meeting; if the University can help with that, I think it
would work great. Of course, you locals would need to drive the
effort, as
many of us will be inbound during that time. I'd be cheerful
to sit in the back and heckle, presuming my flight isn't delayed
and I make it in time.
I would organize it together with Julius and perhaps some others. The
main thing we need from 'Wine' are 2 people who can give a
presentation and what it should be about. I'll try to ask some people
around here for input.
Also, we should note that anyone wishing to
attend Wineconf
but not stay at the hotel should still let us know so we can
plan to have food for you.
At least I will be there (and can't say for others). I also talked a
bit with Julius and Hans and likely we will eat somewhere in the
center of Enschede at least on Saturday. The restaurants on the campus
(or close to here) can be good as well but in the center you also have
some pubs and it has a nicer atmosphere.
Finally if we would need some funds for this (I don't think it is
needed but in the worst case we might need at max 200 euro or so
perhaps for drinks or other things), would the Wine Fund be able to
assist?
Roderick
12 Oct
12 Oct
6:13 p.m.
Hi all,
A couple of weeks ago Julius and I picked up the idea to host a
WinePreConf session for students and other people from the university,
to tell them about Wine. Before we submitted our proposal we talked to
a lot of students and other employees. We got some a lot of positive
responses and for that reason wanted to organize it. Since we wanted
WinePreConf to succeed and not only get 10 visitors, we wanted support
from within the university / student association to provide us with
facilities and most of all assistance with promoting the activity
(e.g. spamming students).
Thanks to bureaucracy it took a while to get in touch with the right
people. People with high positions within computer science weren't
interested. The student association from computer science,
Inter-Actief, was quite interested. Unfortunately they have an
activity weekend which starts at Friday and for that reason they
weren't interested in helping us out and a big part of the potential
visitors would be away. Next to this we have contacted others without
much luck.
While we should be able to get a lecture room without cooperation, we
fear that without assistance from e.g. students we don't get enough
attendees from outside Wine and for that reason it isn't worthwhile to
organize.
We regret that we have to announce that WinePreConf won't take place :(
Julius & Roderick
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Roderick Colenbrander
<thunderbird2k(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
It took some time to put things into motion. Over the past couple of
days Julius and I spoke to a lot of people from the university and
most were quite interested. Early next week we hope to have a meeting
with the study association from computer science, to discuss our plans
(we have made some). Depending on the results of that meeting we will
decide whether WinePreConf takes place or not. I hope to bring some
good news soon :)
Roderick
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Paul Vriens <paul.vriens.wine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 09/21/2009 11:50 PM, Roderick Colenbrander
wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jeremy White<jwhite(a)winehq.org> wrote:
Hi Roderick,
Is this still going to happen? If so, I'd probably head over to Enschede a
bit earlier than planned.
--
Cheers,
Paul.
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>
> What do you guys think about it? I really think there is an interest
> in this and I think the university might be willing to help as well.
I think it's a nifty idea. The key catch would be getting a space
for the meeting; if the University can help with that, I think it
would work great.
Space is not really an issue.
Of course, you locals would need to drive the
effort, as
many of us will be inbound during that time. I'd be cheerful
to sit in the back and heckle, presuming my flight isn't delayed
and I make it in time.
I would organize it together with Julius and perhaps some others. The
main thing we need from 'Wine' are 2 people who can give a
presentation and what it should be about. I'll try to ask some people
around here for input.
Also, we should note that anyone wishing to
attend Wineconf
but not stay at the hotel should still let us know so we can
plan to have food for you.
At least I will be there (and can't say for others). I also talked a
bit with Julius and Hans and likely we will eat somewhere in the
center of Enschede at least on Saturday. The restaurants on the campus
(or close to here) can be good as well but in the center you also have
some pubs and it has a nicer atmosphere.
Finally if we would need some funds for this (I don't think it is
needed but in the worst case we might need at max 200 euro or so
perhaps for drinks or other things), would the Wine Fund be able to
assist?
Roderick
8:03 p.m.
Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
Hi all,
While we should be able to get a lecture room without cooperation, we
fear that without assistance from e.g. students we don't get enough
attendees from outside Wine and for that reason it isn't worthwhile to
organize.
We regret that we have to announce that WinePreConf won't take place :(
Julius & Roderick
Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's wrong with just presenting in
front of a camera? The vast majority of the audience was always going
to be online anyway.
Thanks,
Scott Ritchie
8:30 p.m.
So you would propose video recordings of one or two presentations?
People want to join can come then. Well, that in combination with a
room should be fixable. What do others think about that?
The problem for me is that I don't have much time left (will be in the
US from 20-27). Can't speak for Julius though.
What do others think?
Roderick
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Scott Ritchie <scott(a)open-vote.org> wrote:
Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
Hi all,
While we should be able to get a lecture room without cooperation, we
fear that without assistance from e.g. students we don't get enough
attendees from outside Wine and for that reason it isn't worthwhile to
organize.
We regret that we have to announce that WinePreConf won't take place :(
Julius & Roderick
Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's wrong with just presenting in
front of a camera? The vast majority of the audience was always going
to be online anyway.
Thanks,
Scott Ritchie
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wineconf mailing list
wineconf(a)winehq.org
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8:32 p.m.
So you would propose video recordings of one or two
presentations?
People want to join can come then. Well, that in combination with a
room should be fixable. What do others think about that?
That sounds like a good plan to me. It'd be good to get the wider word
out by having the presentations online, too.
Cheers,
--
Owen Rudge
http://www.owenrudge.net/
9:04 p.m.
Owen Rudge wrote:
Yes, I indeed think that could work. We do have quite a lot of activity
on Usenet here (local utwente hierarchy), so an announcement there would
probably reach quite a few interested people here too.
Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
So you would
propose video recordings of one or two presentations?
People want to join can come then. Well, that in combination with a
room should be fixable. What do others think about that?
That sounds like a good plan to me. It'd be good to get the wider word
out by having the presentations online, too. The problem for me is that I don't have much time
left (will be in the
US from 20-27). Can't speak for Julius though.
Time probably won't be an issue for me. We can probably arrange a room
and camera/streaming. I think it is important to have a clear list of
who is going to speak there. I understand from at least Scott Ritchie he
wants to give a presentation. Who else is interested?
Julius
13 Oct
13 Oct
12:12 a.m.
Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
Owen Rudge wrote:
Yes, I indeed think that could work. We do have quite a lot of activity
on Usenet here (local utwente hierarchy), so an announcement there would
probably reach quite a few interested people here too.
Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
If it's just me then maybe we could compress it into regular wineconf.
Thanks,
Scott Ritchie
So you
would propose video recordings of one or two presentations?
People want to join can come then. Well, that in combination with a
room should be fixable. What do others think about that?
That sounds like a good plan to me. It'd be good to get the wider word
out by having the presentations online, too. The problem for me is that I don't have much
time left (will be in the
US from 20-27). Can't speak for Julius though.
Time probably won't be an issue for me. We can probably arrange a room
and camera/streaming. I think it is important to have a clear list of
who is going to speak there. I understand from at least Scott Ritchie he
wants to give a presentation. Who else is interested?
Julius
12:40 a.m.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Scott Ritchie <scott(a)open-vote.org> wrote:
Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
I was planning on showing up, but didn't have a presentation planned.
I don't think most people new to wine would be interested in topics
I'm more familiar with (appinstall,porting wine,winetricks).
--
-Austin
Owen Rudge wrote:
Yes, I indeed think that could work. We do have quite a lot of activity
on Usenet here (local utwente hierarchy), so an announcement there would
probably reach quite a few interested people here too.
Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
If it's just me then maybe we could compress it into regular wineconf. So you
would propose video recordings of one or two presentations?
People want to join can come then. Well, that in combination with a
room should be fixable. What do others think about that?
That sounds like a good plan to me. It'd be good to get the wider word
out by having the presentations online, too. The problem for me is that I don't have much
time left (will be in the
US from 20-27). Can't speak for Julius though.
Time probably won't be an issue for me. We can probably arrange a room
and camera/streaming. I think it is important to have a clear list of
who is going to speak there. I understand from at least Scott Ritchie he
wants to give a presentation. Who else is interested?
Julius
14 Oct
14 Oct
10:01 p.m.
Scott Ritchie wrote:
Probably the best option is to skip Friday and to arrange good camera's
for Saturday and film all the interesting talks. Then we can record AJ
his keynote and talks given by others e.g. one by you and perhaps one
about 3D or so. Just some small movies which we can put on Youtube.
Roderick & Julius
Roderick
Colenbrander wrote:
If it's just me then maybe we could compress it into regular wineconf. The problem for me is that I don't have much
time left (will be in the
US from 20-27). Can't speak for Julius though.
Time probably won't be an
issue for me. We can probably arrange a room
and camera/streaming. I think it is important to have a clear list of
who is going to speak there. I understand from at least Scott Ritchie he
wants to give a presentation. Who else is interested? 
11:23 p.m.
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
[...]
Probably the best option is to skip Friday and to
arrange good camera's for
Saturday and film all the interesting talks. Then we can record AJ his keynote
and talks given by others e.g. one by you and perhaps one about 3D or so. Just
some small movies which we can put on Youtube.
Most talks are going to be technical (*) and will not target a
non-developer audience. Conversely a talk targeted at users, that is one
that describes what Wine is, what can it do, gives examples of
applications that can be run, that won't interest the WineConf audience
much... except maybe as an example of a talk that they could then give
at Universities and LUGs back home.
So if we are to post something on YouTube that's targeted at people
discovering Wine, then it has to be a talk specific for that audience.
(*) The only talk that's maybe not too technical would be Alexandre's
keynote, mostly because it usually deals more with the life and
progression of the project so anyone familiar with open-source projects
can understand it.
--
Francois Gouget <fgouget(a)free.fr> http://fgouget.free.fr/
RFC 2549: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2549.txt
IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
15 Oct
15 Oct
10:03 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 01:23:53AM +0200, Francois Gouget wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
[...]
I can not attend, but would love to see or preferrably hear anything
developer related.
--
regards,
Jakob
It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it
is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's.
It
isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs.
-- Oxford University Press, Edpress News
Probably the best option is to skip Friday and to
arrange good camera's for
Saturday and film all the interesting talks. Then we can record AJ his keynote
and talks given by others e.g. one by you and perhaps one about 3D or so. Just
some small movies which we can put on Youtube.
Most talks are going to be technical (*) and will not target a
non-developer audience. Conversely a talk targeted at users, that is one
that describes what Wine is, what can it do, gives examples of
applications that can be run, that won't interest the WineConf audience
much... except maybe as an example of a talk that they could then give
at Universities and LUGs back home.
22 Sep
22 Sep
6:19 a.m.
Roderick Colenbrander wrote:
Hi guys,
As you all know WineConf 2009 will take place at the campus of the
University of Twente in the Netherlands. This is the university at
which I have studied and still live. Julius Schwartzenberg (a computer
science student) and I have talked to various students and employees
whether they would be interested in WineConf. We have the impression
that there is quite some interest from them in WineConf (it is hard to
say how much people are interested but I would guess a few dozen).
WineConf itself is open to anyone but except for AJ his keynote, I
don't think it is that interesting for outsiders. What I'm suggesting
is that we hold a 'WinePreConf' on the Friday before WineConf at lets
say 4pm or so at which we will give one or two presentations (lets say
half an hour each) about Wine. It would be meant for students and
others with a technical background and it would explain things like
how Wine works, how it is developed, what it is used for ..... and
other interesting you could think about. After the presentations there
would be time for some beer. Attendees can ask questions and perhaps
can be lured to hack on Wine as well ;)
Personally I think such an event would be good to give others an
overview of Wine and to attract more developers. I don't expect all
Wine developers to be there but I expect that a big part of us is
already available by then (at least the US guys, since US planes
arrive in the morning). I think it would even be possible to hold such
an event in a lecture room which has video equipment and even
streaming support, so we could have some Youtube movies in good
quality ;)
What do you guys think about it? I really think there is an interest
in this and I think the university might be willing to help as well.
Regards,
Roderick Colenbrander
I'm down for this. I want to give a talk about the future of Wine
usability and what it can look like as Wine 1.2 rolls around.
Thanks,
Scott Ritchie
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