On 2/20/07, Jeremy White <jwhite(a)winehq.org> wrote: Add a section under the WineHQ menu (Donations) and a news release ? I agree the language needs some/allot of tuning, but why on earth should we send the money to the SFLC? Are you suggesting we should set up a escrow account with the SFLC and let them hold the money for us? I see it as a good thing as well (TM).. it's not like were going to be saying give us X amount and we will in return give you this or that in return. We will just be asking users and corporations if they would like to give some pocket change to help the project along. Most every other project out there has had fund raisers and even out right ask for funds, I don't see any harm in us having our own fund raiser. I got the $1,000 figure from your first reply :D Okay how about $10,000 and we write up a paragraph or two about the benefits of being a WPF 'gold' sponsor? I have another question, should we think about changing the WPF (Wine Party Fund) to the WCF (Wine Conference Fund)? Cheers, Tom

On 2/20/07, Jeremy White <jwhite(a)winehq.org> wrote: Indeed. I wonder how much just joining Google's ads network would rake in for Wine. ( https://www.google.com/adsense/ )

I suppose that's arguably a better way of monetizing our page rank. I have to confess that I don't have a clearly articulated argument against it, just an unease in my gut. For example, if we do raise money, who gets to decide how it's allocated? I've been pretty uncomfortable essentially being the person deciding for the ~ $2K/year we've been raising. How do we decide if we raise $10,000? Every time I tried to find a way to spend money on Wine, basically folks have said 'never mind'. (As a side note, the purse strings are now in the hand of the Conservancy; they basically require proof of a clear consensus of the Wine project before disbursing funds). Second, I really like the idea of a campaign specifically for travel expenses. Every time I've tried to spend Wine money on things other than Wineconf, it just hasn't worked out, or been necessary. But if we have a campaign just around travel sponsorship, then it's clear to folks donating what it's for. But I wonder if it makes sense to move this discussion to a broader venue? (Or, perhaps, send an email to wine-devel letting folks know that this discussion is going on here). I think this is one of those areas where people may have strong opinions that they've been too polite to air, and it may be useful to air them. Cheers, Jeremy

On 2/22/07, Shachar Shemesh <shachar(a)shemesh.biz> wrote: google for wine and were number 3, 4, 7 and 9 (four) of the top 10 results. Tom