Problem with InstallShield (Was Re: [Bug 629] Changed - Problem with InstallShield: ole:CoTreatAsClass(stub), ole:CoGetClassObject)

Ove Kaaven ovehk at
Mon May 6 17:55:49 CDT 2002

On 6 May 2002, Alexandre Julliard wrote:

> Ove Kaaven <ovehk at> writes:
> > That was an example of what TransGaming might be willing to exchange it
> > against, I don't think Gav made a commitment on that. But the ALSA driver
> > is not yet complete, and the situation changed since the suggestion was
> > first made; Eric used to be on the Wine side ("against" TransGaming), and
> > was willing to write the ALSA driver in exchange for getting more AFPL-ed
> > code into Wine, but that was before Wine was LGPL-ed. Now, Eric is on the
> > ReWind side ("against" Wine), so now he is also interested in getting more
> > LGPL-ed code into ReWind. What he'll exchange the ALSA driver for will
> > depend on his priorities, but the deal certainly needs renegotiation in
> > any case.
> I fail to see how the fact that the driver was written by a Rewind
> supporter instead of a Wine supporter should make any difference from
> Transgaming's point of view.

Oh, there's none of that kind of difference; what could be different here
is just what Eric may want to do (and let TransGaming do).

> And I personally don't see Wine as being "against Transgaming", or
> Rewind as being "against Wine"; and if that's how you see it I find
> that pretty sad.

I used quotes for a reason. The intent was to express relativeness, not

> I also don't understand how this method of holding code back and
> blackmailing other developers can be considered a good thing either
> for Wine, or for Rewind, or for Transgaming.

Agreed. If people would stop holding code back using the LGPL, the
symbiosis we'd have in any case would have a friendlier feel to it. But
the idea here is that, given the restrictions we now have in the LGPL, the
"blackmail" symbiosis we'll be entering now, will result in the most code
available for everyone; CodeWeavers and Wine will benefit from code
blackmailed out of TransGaming, and TransGaming and WineX will benefit
from code blackmailed out of CodeWeavers, and ReWind will benefit from
both. And ReWind is what's important to me personally.

(I better put a disclaimer here: I do not speak for my employer. I speak
because of the extra, more boring, work I am now forced to do, but mostly
from the ReWind perspective.)

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