Throwing in an idea (probably it was discussed before though)
devel8421 at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 22 07:46:04 CDT 2005
>Because it's a tedious and boring task to narrow down those unknown bugs in
>closed-source apps. And that's exactly why we ask you (since you got access
>to the sources) to tell us what the application is trying to do which
>doesn't work in Wine...
Ahem. And how long it usually takes to fix the bug for not-top-10
application? And please, don't suggest to fix it ourselves - it is not going
to happen in corporate environment.
As for 'tell us what the application is trying to do' - you've got all APIs
in your hands, so what's the problem to track down system calls? The issue
our app is experiencing is quite a subtle one - it works Ok with Managed=N
or with Desktop=YYYxZZZ (or from CrossOver BTW), but with default WineHQ
distribution when it tries to minimize one of it's top-level windows with an
explicit call to ShowWindow, the window is not only minimized, but also
reduced to 1x1 pixel; when restoring it, sometimes it is restored normally,
sometimes not. This behaviour was reported for Gnome/KDE/Xfce and can be
fixed with 'Managed' or 'Desktop' settings I've mentioned above.
>>(we checked relevant portions of our code though for potential bugs and
>Even if your application relies on undocumented behaviour ("potential bugs"
>heh) it should work - if it doesn't that's a bug in Wine which should be
Well, in fact WINE compatibility wasn't our goal in such a check (WINE
installation base is still negligible, and probably will remain negligible
until some attention will be paid to out-of-the-box compatibility - at least
like in CrossOver); it was just a good reason to check for potential
incompatibilities under 'native' Win platforms. Also note that having WINE
work perfectly is not our goal (personally I would like it, but the company
coudln't care less).
>Managed=N breaks focusing for everything on my box (bug #2149)...
As it would fix the problem for 99% of our users, and won't affect those who
doesn't run our app, IMO it is still good enough.
Also I remember you've just told that fixing bugs is easy - why does it
still exist then?
Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE!
More information about the wine-devel