[Wine]Pb with Installshield (Dragon Naturaly Speaking) : not enough room on system drive

[Emmanuel Charpentier]

Dear Michael, dear list,

Thank you for your answers !

michael at cherryblossom.homelinux.com wrote:

 > On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 03:27:25PM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote:
 >
 >> Hi !
 >>
 >> I'm trying to install Dragon Naturally Speaking in a WINE "fake 
windows" setup, and I have troubles with InstallShield.
 >>
 >> I tried this a while ago (with wine 20031212) and had *partial* success 
: The app installed, by I had trouble with the character set settings and
 >
 >
 >
 > Set up in environment variables, IIRC KDE has a way to configure this in
 > it's control panel, but I don't use KDE, so...


The problem was iso8859-1 vs utf8. Solved.

 >> botched the voice training, 'cause I couldn't read the screen ...
 >
 >
 >
 > Maybe your resolution wasn't a good one.


Resolutioon was OK but a lot of characters were lost (replaced by "?").

 >> I reinstalled a new machine recently (the previous one died due to a 
failing power supply ...). Wine is now 20040716. I managed to install 
Office 2000 (and IE6, which is needed for MS Access ...), along with a 
couple other apps, working *great*. Note : yes, I *did* install DCOM98.
 >
 >
 >
 > Maybe you'll need proper InstallShield runtimes?


Isn't that provided by the installer ?

 >                                                  Or maybe you need
 > command line dll overrides.


None. See .config file for permanent DLL overrides.

 >                             You can also try Wine 20040813, or current
 > CVS.  And are you using binary 20040716, or build from source?  And what
 > kind of distrobution are you using (if any)?  (Red Hat, Fedora, SuSe,
 > Debian, etc.)


20040716 as packaged in Debian. Kernel is 2.6.6

 >> However, any time I try to install Dragon Naturally Speaking, I stumble 
on the fact that InstallShield is unable to see the free space on the 
system "disk" : according to the log, Wine reports -1 Mb free, while Dragon 
tells it needs 40 Mb. Therefore, InstallShield aborts the installation.
 >
 >
 >
 > How much free space *is* on the Wine directory's partition?


About 1,9 Gb (/home is under /) :

charpent at yod:~$ df
Sys. de fich.        1K-blocs       Occupé Disponible Capacité Monté sur
/dev/hdb3             16516084  13773096   1903996  88% /
tmpfs                   518312         0    518312   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb2             16516084  14808700    868392  95% /mnt/hdb2
/dev/hda1             25181852   6528628  18653224  26% /mnt/hda1
/dev/hdb5             16516052   9240592   6436468  59% /mnt/hdb5
/dev/hdb6             25276760  15604568   8388200  66% /mnt/hdb6
/dev/sda1             32566536   2046560  28865688   7% /mnt/hde1
/dev/sda2             32558532  17012720  13891924  56% /mnt/hde2
/dev/hdc                368838    368838         0 100% /cdrom

 >                                                              ext2/3
 > (among other fs) "reserve" some free space for the root user, in case of
 > emergancies, but that takes away from the users.  Try reporting the
 > results of "df", and/or "df -h".
 >
 > Finally, you didn't include any error messages reported by *wine* in and
 > of itself.


None relevant :

charpent at yod:~$ wine /cdrom/SETUP.EXE
fixme:win:SetWindowTextA cannot set text "InstallShield Wizard" of other 
process window (nil)
fixme:win:SetWindowTextA cannot set text "Installation de 
NaturallySpeaking" ofother process window (nil)
fixme:dialog:MSGBOX_OnInit task modal msgbox ! Not modal yet.
Wine exited with a successful status

 >             Try running it from the console and either directing it's
 > output to a file (just like DOS, use the ">" redirector) or use a
 > logging program like tee ( "wine <command> | tee <filename>" should do
 > it).  You can also try debug channels.
 >
 >
 >> Has anyone any idea on how to pass this ? The relevant files are PS'd 
to this message.
 >>
 >> BTW : Any exeriences/successes/failures with Dragon Naturally Speaking 
? That's the one application I miss on Linux : since IBM botched its 
earlier attemps to port ViaVoice on modern Linuxes and withdrawed it, no 
one has
 >
 >
 >
 > Were they trying to port binaries?


Native SR libraries + Java user interfaces. That mostly worked (and still 
works) in English, but I've been unable to use the relevant French language 
files from Windows version. And since I'm french and work mostly in french ...

 >                                     It's almost impossible to create
 > universal binaries for linux, if I recall correctly.  Very few linux
 > systems are identical, or even use the same sound system, configuration
 > formats, packaging systems, etc. etc.
 >
 >
 >> (yet) created a working VR package ...
 >
 >
 >
 > The point of open source... hopefully someone will develop one soon.


Unlikely : an SR system needs *HUGE* linguistic data, and is a very hard 
nut to crack. See for example Sphinx ...

 > Problem?  They have to work through ALSA or OSS (which audio system),
 > not to mention deal with different PC configurations, and then work on
 > the actual engine of the VR.


That's the least of the problem...

                     Emmanuel Charpentier