[Wine] Trying to Get EMBIRD32 Working Under Wine

[Gert van den Berg]

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 18:30, oldefoxx <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:
> As to your mention of AppDB, I got to it, but that was about all.  nothing i tried did anything or took me any place.  Not sure if there is anything there or not.  Embird is a great embroidery program, and more recent versions add a digitizer as well.  Some programs run into thousands of dollars.  My wife got hers for about $60.  The newer versons are about twice that.  So I am trying to this for her.
>
If it works under Virtualbox, it might be worth running it there. The
main advantages of Wine over Virtualbox, is that it doesn't require a
Windows license and is quicker to work with (You don't need to boot up
an entire operating system) Due to the way it works (see below), it
often misses functionality that breaks applications. In manay cases
that can be fixed if you know how to read the Wine logs and tune the
settings / load the correct set of Windows DLLs (which usually require
a Windows license).

(Virtualbox / VMWare presents an entire PC to an OS, which allows the
OS to be installed. Since the CPU is mostly used directly and the
interfaces that needs emulation is well documented, it mostly work
more reliably with basic functionality)

> Something else you said sounds encouraging, because they represent things to do and try.  I will do that, as soon as I find out what is meant and really involved.
>
> Since you have made it clear that wine does involve a Registry of sorts,
> that means another program might be made to work there as well.  I am referring to IncrediMail XE.  Once people use IM, they don;t want to settle for anything lesser.  Lots of graphics and animation included.  And very heavy use of the Registry for just about everything, including user account info.  In fact, that makes it completely unsecure, so it is out for business use.  Some sites block its traffic, but you can always elect to just use text emila.  The free version is very good in most respects, and the paid for eversion is supposedly better.

Wine loads Windows executables and attempts to present them with an
environment that looks like Windows. This mostly involves implementing
the Windows API on top of a POSIX-type environment.

Incredimail look problematic from the AppDB entry...
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=18227 (I
added some comments on getting the first part of the installer to
run...) (Another thread about it might be result in someone figuring
it out...)
>
> The www.winehq.org site still baffles me.  That's not your doing, but it does mean that I haven;t found ways to get any real benefit from it yet, except to post the original request.  Not even exactly sure how I managed to do that.  These reply links work fine to get back here after I get something started, but I bet the real thing I am missing out oun is what is in AppDB.  WQell, maybe with some more effort it will startx to make sense.
>
The AppDB is a place where users post their experiences with
applications. (Whether they work / how to get it working). The
dedication of the maintainer for the application has a huge effect on
the quality of the entries. Popular application generally have better
pages than obscure ones.

Some good examples:
Office 2007: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992
(works with a few small tweaks) (The installer at least, some of the
applications completely fail to run, such as Outlook and Access)
AutoCAD: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9306
(Kindoff works, requires lots of tweaks, have a decent HOWTO (although
the PlayOnLinux recommendation probably shouldn't be there...))

About embird:

Looks like the ac129136-eb1c-4fff-b0a2-6d6761be4138 messge is related
to checking for Google Desktop.

My guess for the IOCTL failure would be reading the volume serial
number? (Probably for copy protection...)

WINEDEBUG=shell (guessing debug channels related to "Program group"
error) output here: http://pastebin.com/080Yufe4

Gert