po: Revise Russian translation

[Dmitry Timoshkov]

Nikolay Sivov <bunglehead at gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>> Looks good. I especially like changes like these:
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> -msgstr "Пожалуйста, выберите файл."
> >>>> +msgstr "Выберите файл."
> >>> No, this doesn't match the original english text.
> >> I matches okay and sounds better. Verb form is already in plural which
> >> makes 'please' redundant.
> > 'Please' is never redundant, please don't invent new rules. Or should I omit
> > 'please' here?
> No, you can't. There's no way to express it in English, don't be silly. 
> Suggested form is shorter and has exactly same meaning - politely asks 
> to do something.

'Please select a file' and 'Select a file' have cleary different emotional
meaning both in english and in russian.  If you would like to omit 'please'
in russian translations you need to correct english version first. Why for
instance in the same translation update "SCANNING... Please Wait" still
contains 'пожалуйста' (please) then? There are other occurances of 'please'
all over the place, are you suggesting to remove them all as well in
the russian translation? What's so special about russian language that it
should sound rude while the original text intentionally has 'please'?

> >> Same thing as for 'Вы' garbage when used to
> >> address one person.
> > Oh, probably one should ask how well did you learn Russian in school.
> You sure you got what I mean?

I think I did, you could always elaborate of course.

> >>>    Some other translations
> >>> don't match either, for instance
> >>>
> >>>>    "This large number of copies is not supported by your printer.\n"
> >>>>    "Please enter a value between 1 and %d."
> >>>>    msgstr ""
> >>>> -"Такое большое количество копий не может быть напечатано вашим принтером.\n"
> >>>> +"Такое большое количество копий не может быть напечатано этим принтером.\n"
> >>>>
> >> What you mean? 'your' translated literally is out of place here. Article
> >> or a possessive pronoun before a noun is not a requirement in Russian,
> >> as I'm sure you know. In this particular phase it would be enough to say
> >> 'не поддерживается принтером'. No need to literally match English variant.
> > 'your printer' and 'this printer' have two distinct and different meanings,
> > please avoid inventing new traslation rules unless you have a degree in this
> > area.
> Could we talk about this particular case instead of making 
> generalizations or discussing degrees? Thing is distinction is not 
> important here, 'your' exists in English variant because it has to.

If it's not important then there is nothing to discuss and "fix".

In general it's important IMHO to keep translated text match its english
version as much as possible. One of the reasons is to avoid other translators
from fixing the mismatches, another is to really keep the UI consistent in
different languages.

-- 
Dmitry.